tv Greta Van Susteren FOX News August 30, 2013 10:00pm-11:01pm PDT
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heine, now comes the tense wait is what it says with a pick tu of people lining up for their gas masks. all over israel people lined up yesterday to pick up gas masks in case president assad decides to make good on his threat to have tel aviv burn if he is attacked. obviously the syrians have a large chemical weapons stockpile to draw from. the people are nervous about that. the israeli military is also on high alert. they have moved their iron dome missile defense system into position. to protect not only the northern part of the country but tel aviv. they have canceled its weekend leave for a number of soldiers saying they must remain on base and on alert. the israelis walking a very fine line trying to keep the public from panicking. inside syria, we know the syrian military has used the past
couple days to move men, move equipment, evacuate headquarters or anything that could be a target. they have trying to get into mountainous positions there with their launchers so they could possibly retaliate, also making it harder for the united states to destroy a lot of the syrian military. we're also hearing they have moved some of their chemical weapons stockpiles out of their storage facilities and into other facilities. that could certainly kbli kate the targeting for the u.s. military as they want to make sure they don't hit any of those stockpiles and then have the chemical weapons be released in that area. probably the next big thing coming in the next couple of hours is the u.n. weapons inspectors. they have been on the ground in syria for the past couple days now taking samples, trying to conclude what type of gas was used, those type of things. they concluded all of their work on friday in damascus, saturday
morning, which it already is here in the middle east, they are waiting to leave. that's what the president was waiting for, getting anybody who would be taken hostage out of syria before any military strike could happen. there's the feeling that it could happen at this moment. after listening to kerry's speech, he said it's team for the talk to end and the hawks to fly, meaning the tomahawk missiles. what does the intelligence show? james rosen joins us. and what is the information we got today? >> we got a four page, unclassified dossier. it's called a u.s. government assessment of the chemical weapons on august 21st. that right off the bat is a little unusual. these kind of documents don't
usual carry a u.s. assessment. normally they take the form of national intelligence estimate. it's divided into four sections. the background of the chemical weapons program, the duration of the attack and the post attack period. the preparations for the attack is very interesting. the report states flatly, in the three days prior to the attack, we, mean being the united states intelligence community collected streams that revealed regime activities that we associated were with a chemical weapons attack. that raises the question. you tell us, we collected these streams, did anyone raise a warning? if so, how high up the chain did that go? if not, why not? and what we have heard back from the intelligence community after questioning them about this, it didn't really make sense about what it was about until afterward.
>> it's so much easier 20/20 hindsight to say why didn't you notice this. first the question is, what would you have done if we had three days to act. that's the first thing. the second thing is maybe we hear it all the time, that tech information. so it wasn't particularly highlighted and it's in bits and pieces. it's a lot easier to figure out later. it seems so obvious later. >> pan you know from covering so many of these things, one of the first things that gets sounded after there's some kind of catastrophic event is, ah, but there was a warning. one other oddity about this document is that it says at the bottom of page one and i quote, we will continue to seek additional information to close gaps in our understanding of what took place. what are those gaps? >> in looking at the document and obviously it is not fully declassified. even secretary kerry said that today. is there neg that you're thinking why isn't it in there or not. ? >> well, froex they make
reference to intercepts where we learn that officials in the syrian government were calling up members of the unit that actually is in charge of the chemical weapons and inesance saying why did you do that. and also during the attack in fact there's intercept to the effect showing that there was an order to cease the use of the chemical weapons. but how we got those intercepts, what they actually say, how we process them, a lot of that is missing from here. and as they always do, they cite sources and methods. >> kerry made certain that he and the president were confident chemical weapons were used and used by the regime. the only question is can they convince capitol hill. >> and will they wait for a chance to per sbad capitol hill. capitol hill doesn't come back until monday. >> the brits say no. secretary kerry said today that the u.n., they're just
determining whether there were chemical weapons used not who used them, which is of course a significant issue. but any way, james, thank you. >> thank you. >> and today senator meek lee tweeting, if the president cannot convince congress that the syrian crises threatens our national security, military intervention should be off the table. senator lee joins us. nice to see you, sir. >> thank you very much, greta. >> what does the president have to do to convince you, sir? what's needed? >> well, he's got to demonstrate to me and other members of congress that this is in the national security interest of the american people. of americans themselves, not just that mr. assad is a bad guy. we know that. we know that to be true. but that doesn't justify our putting our own people in harm's way. that doesn't justify our own military intervention. he need does show us that it's actually in our military interest, in our national security interest that we've got to do this. and i would add to that, he needs to come to congress and make the case to congress.
>> just to play devil's advocate, it seems unlikely that our people would be in harm's way. the question of national security, again, to play devil's advocate is a rather fluid concept and some might, if you want to be very fluid about it any danger to israel is in our national security since we are so close to israel, or if you have refugees flowing into turkey, flowing into jordan. and that is causing an instability in the region which has an impact on our national security. national security is a very fluid concept depending on who's arguing for it. do you agree with that or tis agree with that? >> sure, he hasn't even been making that case. i haven't even heard the case for american national security in this. what i've heard is this violates some abstract international norms. that's all fine and good. but the use of military force is the most serious exercise of our national sovereignty. and it can't be taken without
the support of congress and without the support of the american people. >> one of things that i would be looking for in congress in terms of not just the issue of whether it meets some national security test or national security in my mind, but what are we going to achieve by it? that's, i think an extremely important thing. we're not looking for regime change, according to the president. we're not going to hit the stockpiles for obvious reasons. le and we're going to send cruise tomahawks in there which can't get bunkers, so what do we hope to achieve at the end of the day? that's what i would demand from the president. tell me what we're going to get. >> well, that's right. he can't promise us any particular outcome that would make americans safer. now using military force in syria, just for the sake of maintaining the president's own personal credibility is simply not a strong enough reason to intervene.
and if he can't tell us what victory looks hike, and if he can't show us that that vekry will make us safer he has absolutely no business getting our military personnel involved in a conflict, one that could prove very costly, not only in dollars but in terms of potentially lives, including lives of americans. >> it would be 200 cruise missiles, about a million and a half apiece would be shot. and that's just the raw material of the cruise missiles. i don't know if that's remotely close or anything, but i do know this would be very costly. in the event the president doesn't get any approval from congress and he goes ahead and does it hike other presidents before have done it, what are you going to do? >> well, i don't know. i will say this. this has come up in town hall meetings that i've been conducting throughout my state, utah over the last few weeks. and people throughout my state are really upset about this. they do not want the president going to war without congress's
authorization. and so i'm not sure what the consequence will be, but the consequences will be there. they may come in the form of a funding decision. they may come in some other form. but he will face consequences if he does this. >> what's the difference between a cruise missile into syria and a drone into yemen? >> well, you know, they're different equipment platforms. i'm not sure what the difference -- >> i don't mean that. i mean the whole idea of the authority of the president. >> yeah. well, here what we're talking about when we're talking about some kind of a military action designed to weaken the military infrastructure of an incumbent government on foreign, sovereign soil and regardless of how you define an act of war, at some point, you cross into the flesh hold of a war when you're trying to topple or at least weaken the incumbent government of a foreign sovereign nation when acting on foreign soil.
and that's what he's proposing here in one way or another. >> senator, thank you, sir. >> thank you very much. >> so what would an attack on syria look like? what military do we have in the region? i'm going to ask you a quick question. leland vitter says that right now syria is moving equipment, launchers and chemical weapons stockpiles. if i understand it, the cruise missiles, the one thing they're not good for is movable targets and underground bunkers, right? >> and they're not good at cratering airfields. they're not terribly good at taking out any type of reinforced target. there's only like 250 pounds of tnt in these things. and they have to be programmed. they have to be targeted. it's a process. and it takes several minutes for it to get to the target. so it can't hit anything that move, greta. >> why is this the weapon of choice? i mean, it seems to me like, and
i hate to be so crass, but this is like an earthquake without notice, if we're just going to topple a bunch of buildings. >> frankly it's safe. stran frankly, it's safe. >> safe to what? >> you're stands off a thousand miles. you're flying underneath their antiaircraft umbrella and you're striking symbolic targets. >> but the whole point is you're trying to achieve a tech goal. >> that's right. >> you're not trying to get regime change. so what would be the goal here. >> the goal is to send a message. and that's actually coming from the administration. the purpose of this strike is to send a message and to maintain american credibility in the region. >> how do we maintain credibility if we just knock down a couple buildings. we have the same guy in charge there. they still have their launchers. they still have their chemical weapons. and it's actually become sort of a recruitment as they show
pictures of civilians that were hurt. >> so after the dust settles, the syrians all look at themselves assay wow, that wasn't bad, let's continue the campaign. let's start killing our people again using conventional weapon, because that seems to be okay. and then what does the united states do? that's when we look bad, is when we have this pinprick, if you will, against the syrians. we strike empty buildings, and we strike airfields. and then assad's still in power, maybe even stronger in the minds of the syrian people. and then what do we to? we do nothing. >> and of course i was reading the head leans in the english speaking papers in iran, and they talk about how one of them says foreign ministry in iran says what kerry presented today is based on old stories published by terrorists over a week ago. itsi it says russia says it's unacceptable. they talk about us starting a
regional war. i'm okay if we're achieving some tech goal, but we're still going to have chemical weapon, rocket launchers to do them and assad in position. >> one. great ironies is when this is all over, we may very well be reinforcing and making stronger the very people in the opposition who hate us. i mean, this is the middle east. i understand that. but this is absolutely off the table. there are no american vital strategic interests at play in this strike. none whatsoever. >> is there any instance in recent history where a limited strike -- and that's what this is considered to be -- >> that's right. >> limited strike has achieved some very important strategic goal? >> limited strike do only one thing is they lead to further limited strikes, and perhaps even to war. why is that? because the enemy has a vote. and the enemy can react as you've just described by running away, scattering, going to ground, hiding and moving away
from the streak and now the ball is in his court. and what does he do? does he streak israel? does he go back to kill his people? i mean, the horsh horizons are unlimited. they have stood up to the great satan. if you are going to strike the snake you cut off his head not his tail. >> even some democrats are demanding that president obama get congressional is approval. good evening congresswoman. >> good evening, greta. i understand you also want congressional approval. why? >> the constitution requires it. and the war powers act requires that congress vote before a military attack. and clearly we have not been attacked. but the law requires it.
but more than that, our system of government requires it. the american people right now are not for this. and if the president thinks it's the right thing for our country to do, he needs to make his case to the congress and in doing so, make his case to the american people. it would be very unwise to move forward without that support. >> is doing a limited attack such as launching cruise missiles, and the president hasn't made a decision. it may be what we all assume he's going to do, even for a short period of time, is that an act of war? >> let me ask you this, greta, if somebody dumped cruise missiles on washington, d.c. only for a day, would we consider that not an act of war? >> i would. i certainly would. i must confess, because the whole issue, and i don't know if it even matters. but sort of international law, when is it okay to drop missiles
on somebody. >> this isn't just a question of international law it's a question of national law. the president should not initiate war hostilities without a vote of the congress. but wanting to talk about international law, we don't have a resolution from the u.n. security council. and in fact, the u.n. has asked that no action be commenced until the inspectors not only are gone, but submit their report. so we would be acting in violation of international law as well as american law. let he jume just say, i mean, p have suggested, and i signed a letter urging the president to consult congress. my question is this. why doesn't speaker boehner call us back into session next monday. he as the speaker has the power to reconvene the house at any time. and if he doesn't do that, i can only assume that he is game with the president.
>> i've been hard on everybody about that. i'm here tonight. any way. congresswoman, thank you for joining us. and obviously we're all watching this one extremely closely. thank you. >> thanks very much. >> straight ahead, should the u.s. strike syria? the experts are here. senator lindsey graham and lieutenant general oliver north. what does former president george w. bush think? it appears our journey has come to a delightful end. then i better use the capital one purchase eraser to redeem my venture miles for this trip. purchase eraser? it's the easy way to erase any recent travel expense. i just pick a charge, like my flight with a few taps, it's taken care of. impressive baldwin. does it work for hotels? absolutely thank goodness. mrs. villain and i are planning our... you scare me. and i like it. let's go what's in your wallet? getting theight nutrition
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president of france at this point. things look rather bleak in terms of getting allies. >> we don't know that the french are actually going to be using military assets. they will be cheering us on perhaps. but as of now it will be essentially a united states operation. so you have the obama administration with people like joe biden and john kerry who spent years criticizing the bush administration for its unilateralism, doing something that truly is unilateral as opposed to things done in the bush administration likely the overthrow of saddam hussein that had dozens of coalition members along with it. >> what's the difference between doing it this way and drop ago drone on somebody in yemen that's on a kill list? >> there isn't any difference. the president has full constitutional authority to launch this attack against syria. >> you don't think he has to seek approval? >> absolutely not. absolutely not. there's a political question whether he would be better off
in getting congressional authority. but as a matter of constitutional law, there's absolutely no requirement. if congress doesn't like what he does they should cut off the funds. >> i thought it looked really bad for the president we get a taeped comment from him. we're sitting around with a bunch of people. i thought the visual was just so lousy. >> i think the only thing president obama wants to do here is check the box that he has done something. because the assad regime violated the red line against using chemical weapons. i think this is shaping up to be the most dissident use of military force in american history. and i think that's why the president won't go out front on it. i think you can attribute in part prime minister david cameron's humiliation in the house of commons yesterday to the fact that the american president had not made the case effectively. >> how america is perceived in the world matters, do you agree? >> exactly.
>> in light of the fact that the president has gotten boxed in and now he can't get any one to help him, can we help him out of this one before we go? can you think of some way where he can extricate himself, retain some. credibility of the world so we don't read the head lines tomorrow that syria scared us and we don't run away with our tail between our legs? >> i think his credibility is irreparably damaged. >> we're all going to live with his credibility. >> i don't think it's repairable. i think what we have to could now is explain to the world that we're in a 1200 day period when the president is not going to be effective, but that that doesn't mean that america can't be reinstated intoity proper place once you get a real president in washington. i don't think you can look at a president like this. he's not going to change in the last 1200 days. it's just going to get worse. >> you should see the headlines all over the middle east that i looked at. you know, no matter how much you
exaggerate, no matter how much they are wrong, it is still what everybody's reading there. >> i don't think this particular episode is any worse than the last four and a half years. >> it's right in our face right now. >> it's emblem attic of the president's comfort level with a declining, less powerful america. because he think it's america's strength in the world that causes the problem. so a weaker america will lead to a more peaceful world. that's his view. >> what's the best thing that could happen from a limited strike. if everything went the president's way, what happens? >> the best that could happen would be that iran and others do draw the conclusion that there's a price to be paid for pursuing weapons of mass destruction. i think there's almost zero chance they will draw that lesson. in fact, i think the odds are almost overwhelming that they'll draw the wrong conclusion, that they can get away with it. >> thank you, sir. >> thank you. >> what actions should the u.s. take with syria. lindsey graham is not wavering.
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this is a fox news alert. warships are ready, ready to strike syria, and president obama is consulting with american allies. lindsey graham says now is the time for decisive actions. so what action should the u.s. take. senator lindsey gram joins us. good evening, sir. >> thank you, greta. >> what do you think could possibly be achieved. we're's the situation we're in. we've now told president assad we're not going to get rid of him. there will be no boots on the ground and so what, what's our goal? what are we going to achieve if we do messle, if we do cruise missile attacks? >> nothing but reenforce that we're weak. you nailed it. the president painted himself in a corner in 2012 when he told assad you better not use chemical weapons. and the question is, a year
later, why would assad use chemical weapons after being told by obama not to. he's used them and we've done nothing. so in the last year, i think president obama is convinced radical islamists that we don't really mean, that we're not coming their way. after benghazi when four americans were killed, our ambassador was killed, the consulate overrun, no one's been held to account. we send all the wrong signals. benghazi pulling out of iraq. so assad has sized up obama and said this, i don't really believe the guy means what he say, and a weak response by the president reenforces a longer war and a longer this war goes on the more economically chemical weapons get in the hands of terrorist organization, the king of jordan is likely to fall. lebanon and iraq are falling apart. so the president has mishandled this as badly as he could. quite frankly, the chickens have
come home too roost, leading from behind and be being impassive. so a pinprick strike is the worst of all worlds. >> the strike, as we understand it's going to be, this is what's so baffling to me. >> mind-boggling, isn't it? >> cruise missiles which can't hit moving targets. >> right. >> and can't hit underground bunkers. who assad who we're not even trying to get rid of under this project is going to go into an underground bunker. we're heir not going to get the launchers for the chemical weapon, and we're not going for the chemical weapons themselves. so we knock down a couple buildings and things that's over. the president goes off to the g-20, they clean up the rubble. the president rallies the troops and says look how horrible the americans are and shows pictures of dead children that we've
killed. >> this is what he has to do because he's painted himself in a corner. it's not a logical response to a real problem. how many times have you heard them say here's where we're going to hit you, here's how we're going to hit you, and we promise that it won't last long. never in the history of military operations has a military campaign been successful when you tell the enemy exactly what you're doing. now he's painted himse corner with a response. he's told the entire world it will be limited in nature. we don't need boots on the ground, but he's taken off the table an effective military response. so it's the worst of all worlds. barack obama's put us and the region no the worst possible situation it could be. >> we have a couple minutes. he has a problem with his own party. we are democrat whose want answers. they want a robust debate on capitol hill. >> i want a decisive action before it's too late.
iran is watching every move we make in syria. to say what we do in syria doesn't affect iranian behavior is unrealistic. we're showing weakness in syria making it more likely that iran will march to a nuclear weapon. in his effort to avoid war obama has spread war. in his effort to reach out and make peace we've gotten the finger. so at the end of the day he thought he could go into the mideast, not be like bush, give speeches and charm people. it hasn't worked. radical islamists are not taking obama seriously. this war's going to spread outside of syria. this weak response is going to make things worse, not better. >> senator, thank you, sir. >> thank you. >> so how would a strike on syria go down. lieutenant colonel oliver north joins us. we are where we are in this mess or whatever it is. so what is the president going to do, and what could he do? light of everything that's going
on right now? >> well, after -- >> give an exit strategy that's good for america. >> after the kerry speech today, everybody thought he decided to postpone it, and i don't be think i has. >> i actually thought the opposite. i thought kerry's speech was a warning that we're not going to pay attention to you and we're full speed ahead. >> but it was setting up the obama presser where he says i haven't decided. he has decided. he is going to go ahead with a very limited strike and that's going to make him feel better. here's what cruise missiles do in these kind of situations. they look like weak presidents look like in the mirror they're stronger. the reality is the enemy knows better. as senator graham pointed out, assad knows exactly what's going on. worse, the cruise missiles are going to strike targets, but not the ones you really need.
tartus is the biggest, and putin does not want that base hit. so it won't be. on top of that, this is a war, a civil war that is being run by an outside party. the outside party is the islamic revolutionary guard core, headquartered in tehran. we're not going to hit tehran. they are the ones calling the shots on how the syrians fight this. >> what can we do? what do we do? >> it would take guts for this guy to look into the camera and say i shouldn't have said anything about a red line. what i am going to do is beef up the security of all the embassies is because as you know in nine days, you have the eve of another 9/11 attack. and those anniversaries really are important to the bad guys. so do that immediately. second of all, go to the israelis and say i'm going to pull back my horns. you've got the southern part of that country targeted. you take care of the things you
need to take care of to make sure you're not going to get hit as a reprisal because syria can't come after us, but the iranians can come after israel. and every israeli embassy in the planet. what this administration needs to do, go to the senate select committee with covert findings and say i want my risk agencies to immediately hire a thousand contractors who are military people who have gotten out, who speak the language, and there are thousands of them who are now looking for something to do in an economy that's never turned around, and put them to work recruiting, fielding and training a real syrian freedom fighter movement. it can be done. those people are out there. they've just not been given any weapons by our ally turkey.
>> i was trying to figure out how to get myself out of that one. >> it's not going to finish easily. it's a bad situation. >> indeed. nice to see you, sir. coming up, don't you really want to see what it's like on the syrian border? and what does former president george w. bush think? ♪ [ male announcer ] may your lights always be green. [ tires screech ] ♪
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lifted in yosemite national park, the fire is now 35% contained. and a powerful earthquake shaking the alush yan islands. no tsunami alerts were issued and that are know reports of damage or injuries. now back to on the record. congressman dun scan hunter just got back from the syrian border. what did he see there? what's it like? >> it was interesting. i tell you that. the biggest thing that we saw there, i was there with a democrat ranking member of the armed services kmety. we went to abu dhabi after that. the juror dane yans who are our friends, they have liquor stores. they're a very secular country in the middle east.
and they're kind of the buffer shown zone in between syria and the rest of the middle east. they're verging on disaster. i spoke to the crown prince and some other folks. as jordan goes, so goes the middle east. they are being destabilized. we saw a refugee camp with 120,000 syrian refugees who were quite ungrateful for the assistance that america and her international friends have put into that refugee camp. but that's basically what's happened there. they've basically closed off the border. so there's no outlet for the refugees who are trying to leave the violence and destruction. >> you've been to one of these rev ju camps to the border in recent time. so tell me, are you for the president's military action as best we can tell what it is? he hasn't decided yet. or are you opposed to it?
>> it doesn't matter what i think. the president has to -- the president has to abide by the war powers act. here's what i think he should do. congress needs to be reconvened next week. >> how about tomorrow? >> tomorrow's fine too. all the members of congress who haven't had the service in iraq, afghanistan, they can get the secret briefs. there's no way you can learn all the information you need to learn at an open source level. every congressman needs a top secret brief. the state department, and then congress needs to vote on this to either grant the president the authority to do military streaks or n strikes or not. and i would disagree with lindsey graham and oliver north. cruise missiles can affect things like the air force. assad is winning. he is beating the opposition forces right now. so if you were able to
militarily degrade assad's air force or his armor, that would and good thing because then he wouldn't be able to run roughshod over the opposition. we can still degrade his conventional military forces, which would give the opposition more of a chance. and long-term wise, colonel north has it right. we need to allow our friends in the area to train a force that after assad leaves or is removed. that could be from two week does two years, we want to make sure we have some influence on the force that's able to occupy damascus and hold it while everything settles down and they try to have some type of islamic democratic republic as they k america should have an influence. and the way we do that is training the folks who go in and
hold damascus so it doesn't go kraezy and al qaeda gets all those chemical weapons. we need to get the right guys. >> i very much appreciate you being here, especially since you were just there and bringing perspective to this that i simply don't have. i wasn't there in the last couple days. thank you, sir. >> thank you, greta. >> straight ahead, is president obama losing more support on syria each day and is there anything he can do to get washington on his side? get great deals on great gear at bass pro shops' labor day sale. and bring the kids this weekend for games, crafts, and seminars, all for free.
is u.s. opposition to attack on syria growing? how do you describe the president's support on capitol hill? growing, slipping or staying the same? >> i see the president's support on cal capitol hill right now slipping, and slippin quite fast. right now the opposition to any operation in syria was met with resistance, but as soon as the white house started revealing more details, it seemed like support for any type of military streak in syria has really gone down fast. >> even with the revelation that there's chemical weapons? i would have thought if neg, that's his reason for going
forward is the use of chemical weapons. so i would think that the more support he has it may chip off a few more in his corner. >> while the issue of chemical weapons has been a very big deal for the administration, while it comes to capitol hill, when it comes to u.s. national security interests it seems to be not clear. and the more the president keeps trying to make that connection the more the opposition is growing. >> he doesn't have the biggest ally, the brits going forward, that hurt. not that anybody's a big fan of the u.n., the u.n.'s not interest. the only one who seem does be interested is the president and a handful of others. >> yeah. it's definitely not the coalition that the administration was looking to build ahead of these streaikes. but as you mentioned these allies falling off. it seems the administration's
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>> what has syria been like for the u.s. in the eight years that you served. would you say that the feeling that they had in supporting the insurgency, there was no doubt about that. >> i was not a fan of mr. assad. he's an ally of iran. and he's made mischief. >> made mischief. and for a long team he felt impervious to america. >> yeah. and the president's going to have to make a tough decision. >> and what about the rest of the world saying we're not too sure. we're going to wait for the u.n. you've been through that before. >> the president has to make a tough call. i know you're trying to subtly rope me into the issues of the day. i refuse to be roped in. >> i understand. but i'm not trying to rope you in. i'm trying to get your unique perspective. >> putting our military into harm's way is the toughest decision a president will make.
>> thanks for being live editio next. meantime, go to gretawired.com. good night. this is a fox news alert. the united states is closer to taking military action in syria. president obama says he hasn't made a decision yet, but that he is considering limited, narrow action in response to the chemical weapons attack. ed henry is at the white house monitoring the situation. ed joins us now. ed? >> reporter: andrea, good to see you. after days of laying low on syria, the president let his secretary of state, john kerry, take the lead on this issue twice this week. he came out a short time ago and spoke out, went after president assad in syria by basically saying this is a challenge to the world right now to step up and lead in